I follow a Facebook site called
Seventies Time Machine. They often post nostalgic photographs of a more
innocent age where buses had conductors, trains had guards and TV personalities
had just about anyone they wanted
The other day they posted an image of
the 70’s TV show ‘Mind Your Language’ and posed the question, ‘Was this
innocent comedy or politically incorrect rubbish?’
I was 17 when this was first broadcast
and I thought then, as I do now, that it was poorly written, even more poorly
acted and used lazy racial stereotyping for limited comedy effect. When I was
17, nearly everyone I knew agreed with me but, when I clicked through to the
comments section of the FB posting I was shocked to find out who I now represented.
Marilyn
Dawson It was very innocent . A time when we all 'took the mick' out of
every nationality and we didn't take offence at all , the pc brigade need to
take a humour pill :-D
So, I now appear to be part of the “PC
brigade”. I have, apparently now lost my sense of humour and need to have it
restored by a sinister sounding ‘pill’. Did we really ‘take the mick’ out of
every nationality? And, if we did, could we say that nobody took offence? My
recollection is that those on the receiving end of the mickey taking never
really had a voice. However, John, here might give it some perspective,
John
Edwards Good natured fun. We made jokes about our differences but nowadays
the marxists go ballistic over what they think are racial stereotypes.
Ohh, the bloody Marxists, is it? Hang
on, the entire show is based upon racial stereotypes, that’s the one joke. it’s
not something that anyone is inventing for the purpose of going ballistic.
Betty Eisner It was not racist at all. It was innocent
comedy 'normal' people saw it just as that. All of these politically correct
people are not 'normal' and they cause all of the problems and create racism
which is not there.
So we have Betty’s interpretation of ‘Normal’.
Normal people saw it as innocent comedy and not racist at all. The trouble is,
Betty thinks that racial stereotyping is something that should be tolerated by
people and if you don’t think like Betty you’re not ‘normal’. I think it’s
called a self-perpetuating argument.
Shaun Hopkinson What the PC brigade fail to
understand, is that this was actually taking the mick out of English as much as
it was the rest of the nationalities. In fact I'd say it was showing stupid we
Brits actually are. I loved it as a kid.
Ah, thanks Shaun. Being part of the PC
Brigade, I failed to spot that it was self-parody and that it was, in fact, ‘we
Brits’ that were being portrayed as stupid. I missed the joke.
What I need is some clarity…
Sue
Taylor Those were the days when we all had a sense of humour and didn't
take ourselves too seriously. It actually taught tolerance by highlighting our
differences yet all really being the same inside.
Sue
has poured some much needed common sense onto the choppy waters of this
argument and reminded us that there was a moral message behind the humour. But,
wait, she goes on..
Unfortunately the government has too much power.
The government? What have they got to
do with it?
Richard, who presumably won’t be
offended if I point out that he writes like some of the MYL characters speak,
adds…something.
Richard
Leslie Nutting Brilliant, people of today are just to sensitive people you'll get
over it. thats the problem in todays society alway worried about hurting
someones feelings the things just laugh it off you will get over it.
Richard has thrown his hat in the ring
here with some force. I think the underlying message is that we will get over
it. The problem, according to him, in today’s society, is that we are always
worried about hurting someone’s feelings. That, essentially, if we stopped
worrying about hurting anyone’s feelings and became less sensitive, we would,
perhaps produce another Mind Your Language which we would all, ultimately, get
over.
Mandy has something to say,
The possessive pronoun in perfect
context. It was ‘ours!’ It belonged to ‘Us!’ Any idea who ‘We!’ were? Anybody,
presumably, who knows Mandy.
Paul Davis-Cooke Most people
were racist at the time, in a general way. It was simply commonplace. My Father
always complained about there being too many of 'them' but was polite and
friendly to any non white person he met. He would have been surprised and upset
to be thought
racist. I'm not condoning it but it's just the way things were.
Here comes Paul with the argument racism
was commonplace at the time, in a ‘general’ sense. That’s ‘generally’ not
‘specifically’ racist. Most people, that’s MOST people at the time, were
racist. Take his father, for instance, who always
complained about there being too many non-white people in the world but who,
himself, would have been upset if he had been labelled a racist.
Stephen
Richard Cockram It was a great comedy,it was not made with prolifically
correctness in mind ,but who cared,so wind your neck you idiots ,like comedy
because it makes you laugh nothing more !!!!
Sorry, Stephen, I overlooked the fact
that it was not meant to be prolifically correct and will wind in my neck. I
should, in future, ‘like comedy’ because it makes me laugh. But what if it
doesn’t? What if it is badly constructed shite? Should I still like it?
This was, in fact, the last thing
Keith ever typed.
Sonia’s reasoning behind ‘Mind Your
Language’ being unfunny to the PC Brigade and Marxists is that, nowadays, “parents
don’t let their kids do anything” and schools “only teach them how to pass
exams”. This is also the reason they “commit suicide” when they get “out there
on their own”.
Sonia
Jayne Luff Todays world is very different but who's fault is it when parents
don't let their kids do anything and wrap them up in cotton wool. Schools only
teach them how to pass exams and nothing about the outside world and real life.
The PC brigade don't want you to upset anyone .No wonder they commit suicide
when they get out there on their own.
Meanwhile, Ian observes,
Ian Spence Nothing wrong
with the language
It's the clowns of today's generation snowflake that can't handle it
Them who can't see past a screen and see and be exposed to the outside world and have no back bone and go and cry when something is said
It's the clowns of today's generation snowflake that can't handle it
Them who can't see past a screen and see and be exposed to the outside world and have no back bone and go and cry when something is said
I
must admit that I do in fact, due to a lack of backbone, have a tendency to cry
when something is said. If only I could see beyond that screen.
Paul
Jackman we can not judge as different eras,but MOST of the 'comedy'
nowadays is banal such as 'jokes' about cancer etc which the 70's /80's never
would have countenanced Also do not remember one swear word from the older
sitcoms. .
Paul begins by admitting that we
CANNOT judge different era’s before going on to judge the present era which, he
says, is mostly comedy about cancer (eh?). His observation that he doesn’t
remember one swear word from the older sitcoms is an indication that, perhaps
there were members of the PC Brigade infiltrating television at the time and
rejecting any bad language.
Leighton!
Gary!
Paul
Carter Made me laugh at the time! And it made the actors money to! To
many people telling us why to say and watch!!
Look, we in the PC Brigade will never tell you why to say, nor will we dictate why to watch, nor shall we tell you why to think.
I don’t believe this next person’s
name is Andrew Optional…
Andrew
Optional It was a funny comedy in its time but sadly todays society is just
too eager to claim discrimination and compensation
Excuse me, I just have to deal with
Vivien, who looks as if she is about to burst into tears.
We can, Vivien, we can have fun. Look
how much fun I am having. I’m not offended, even though I appear to fit your image
of a member of the PC Brigade, I appear to be having more fun than the rest of
you put together. You’re all obsessed by the fact that there is an organisation
somewhere trying to prevent enjoyment. Mind Your Language wasn’t banned or
outlawed, it just stopped being funny, if it ever was.
Sonia Jayne Luff When we had a sense of humour.
Shame the young of today and the PC brigade don't know what that is.
I think you will find that there are
still some young people who share your sense of humour and are more than
capable of mocking those who have a language, culture or religion different
from your own.
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